Come on for fuck sake, show a little bit of objectivity. Why in the world, when we're discussing performances against a team, would you miss out the two cup games where we won (especially when we're discussing St Mirren's cup win)? Other than to make a shite point, and because it inconveniently doesn't suit that which you were trying to make. We're discussing a team here that is odds on favourite to beat us in every single meeting, who have a budget 4 times ours (objectively/factually). We shouldn't expect to beat them in every single game, we shouldn't expect to get the better of them in head to head over a season - that would be entirely unreasonable and completely unfair on the manager. Just as it would be to expect St Johnstone to get the better of us in head to head over a season. That's not to say it won't happen on the odd occasion, and there will likely be one (different) team who manages it each year, just as happens to us. I think a reasonable expectation would be one win at home and a draw in the other remaining fixtures and a free for all in the cups if we get them. Four points per season against a team with the budget disparity would seem about right, just as St Johnstone fans wouldn't grumble about getting four points against us in any one season (I'm not sure why we think we have any right to expect more than St Johnstone fans in that regard). McInnes didn't know his team on game one, which was extremely poor, but the second meeting was a complete write-off that nobody could have been expecting points from. We need at least one win against them this season to be respectable, and I think we've got a good chance of that if we have our best 11 (McGeouch for McRorie) available. We also can't look at our results against the hun objectively without looking at everybody else's. Only two teams have drawn against them this season in Hibs and Livingston, so there isn't a manager out there getting the better of them - Goodwin included (obviously). What we saw last night was a one off shock result, which happens to every team at some point. Why would you take last night's result and say "see, that's how you do it, it's nae difficult" and ignore the other 25 games they've played? It's just ridiculous.
Here are our prior seasons' results versus the hun:
19/20 0W 2D 1L (one fixture not fulfilled)
18/19 3W 2D 2L
17/18 0W 1D 3L
16/17 2W 0D 2L
So 17/18 season stands out as the one we were poor in, making up for that by finishing above them in the league.
For the record, McInnes talks about winning the game in every game we play against them, but for some reason it gets ignored. Similarly against the Tims. Also, when you're using the measure of how a team performs versus what the manager said before the game, you have to include all games where the manager said they were there to win the game but then went on to lose it. Unless we're saying that not one manager has said that they're there to win the game before every Rangers game this season? The arguments just get more and more ridiculous.