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Scomo is scum. Nothing but a conservative yank wannabe. His attitude (much like most of Aussie politicians) to climate change is disgusting. I don’t actually think we need to look at the effects of how it’s going to play out, we saw it two years ago with the vast bush fires and I truly hope the aussies don’t forget how he behaved. But that’s a separate issue. Apologies, when you said they were demonstrably bollocks, I thought you meant the outcomes. The figures that Aussie state / NZ govt set were to protect the health services from being overwhelmed. Whilst not backed by science per-se (and therefore arbitrary) it became clear herd immunity wasn’t going to be achieved at a lower figure as well as airlines likely requiring vaccination before flying. All their alert levels relating back to these numbers were just trying to limit spread. An ultra cautious approach, one which allowed us to eliminate alpha and significantly limit delta. Whilst my tone may concern you, this is based on what I’ve seen personally, not the government messaging / protocols. I’ve seen them attacking staff (both physically and verbally), I’ve seen the vandalised shops, I’ve seen the selfishness of a grand mother who who faked a vaccine passport, lied their way down the country, despite the request of her son and daughter in law not to see them or visit some of their family as they’ve a 3 week old baby. This is her choice. She has no logical reason for not getting vaccinated apart from becoming magnetic, anti 5G and pro conspiracy theory . it’s worth noting for context that she was also a twat before covid, so it’s not a case of needing to feel sorry for her. The people that attend the anti vax protests here are the vulnerable (in mind), the mob and the more contrarian thinkers. They’ve been encouraged not to get vaccinated by various pseudo religious leaders which is not seen before moving here. The opposition are trying to make this political by trying to oppose this that and the other, but all it’s done is show them up to be pro big business. there’s a big difference between vaccine hesitant and anti vax. The latter have proven themselves to be selfish and awful human beings. How to make social media companies accountable for the amount of misinformation and push they allow on their platforms is something that needs to be discussed. How governments can do this, I don’t know but whilst the number of Ill-informed is low, they are very vocal. I guess I’m more exposed to the numbers of them than some others may be as I live in an area with a low vaccination rate, as well as being close to / working in the capital, I see a higher proportion. im hoping the above is coherent, buts its been a very early start.

Well, nobody could accuse you of being Glass half empty.

Have to disagree with you both. Joe is still one of best keepers in the league and I think better than Clark. Admittedly Clark could still improve and if this was 2024 then it might be a move you would make but with 2 years still to run on his contract and at the prime age for a keeper I would not be looking to move Joe on. Plenty other positions that need addressing first.

Fuck sake just sat and read through the last page or so that has recently been posted on here. I'll be perfectly honest, I'm not what I consider to be a unintelligent human being but the GIF below sums it up. Good to see a passionate debate taking place though guys I took my vaccines as much for others around me as for myself.

No that's a traffic cone randomly picked off the Beach Boulevard