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Think folk are being bit unfair on McKenzie . I don’t think he looks like a full back but still a decent defender and would like to see how he does at centre back maybe as left of a three. Definitely worth keeping. Also Lewis is getting a lot of unwarranted stick. He might not be playing as well as he has in previous seasons but he is still a decent keeper by SPFL standard and there are only 3 or 4 in the league better than him in my opinion.

I don't think he's crap, but I don't think he's good enough either, and nor do I think there's much room for improvement in his game at his age. McKenzie got a lot of undue credit after McInnes left because Glass was blooding young players that would never have got a game previously. In reality, we had a fantastic young player in Ramsay who wasn't (and perhaps isn't) ready for 90 minutes who would no way have been overlooked by McInnes and McKenzie who just wasn't good enough (and would likely have been let go). We formed this imaginary scenario where we were playing entertaining fitba and throwing in youngsters too - it just wasn't true. It led to McKenzie getting a contract with the jury firmly still out. If RST's suggested departures are accurate though, it leaves us thin on the ground. It's bizarre that with all those leaving Considine wasn't kept. I'm guessing we add Duncan to that as I assume he'll be looking for minutes, and maybe Ngwenya too (although I'm not sure if he'll be good enough either). I have a feeling that Polvara isn't of the required standard either, so he'll likely only be a squad player too. We'll be very lucky to keep Ramsay. It's an insane level of recruitment required, very difficult to understate just how hard this will be to get even close to right. I'd count 7 new first team players required (assuming Ramsay leaves): goalie, right back, left centre back, left back, left winger, centre midfielder, striker. There is no way on earth that we're getting 7 succesful signings in one window, so that means that likes of Hayes, Bates and McKenzie (I'd probably include Watkins and McRorie too) are going to continue to be our best options in their respective positions with zero options from the bench when needed. Cormack has massive questions to answer in regard to the last three windows and how it has managed to get to this stage. It'd take an absolute miracle to sort this to any degree next season. I'd say you're at best looking at another 3 windows to get close, but more likely this is going to take us 2 seasons to fix. What a disaster.

Nothing to add to the fitba thread.Done a few more sections of the coastal route.Newtonhill to Muchalls was a bit dour.Muchalls to Stoney was brilliant.Lots of twists,turns and surprises on the way. Also did a section from Catterline to Crawton.Involved a lot of walking on the edge of newly seeded fields.Its possible to walk the outside of the field fences but its a bit rough,pathless and often exposed.Good walk though.Saw a pod of Pilot whales Muchalls beach near the railway bridge Waterfall at crawton

Awful game. Zero creativity. Pretty much glad the season is coming to an end, and no point in talking about the game as it simply was more of the same shite. No wonder Ramirez wants to leave, I think he’s a decent player, but such shit service for much of the year. he lost interest in recent weeks much like many of us did. we were at our best over the last decade when we had the two best wingers outside of the old firm in mcginn and hayes, and the best center mids outside of them in jack and McLean. Plus an inspirational leader in shinnie. Throw in talented flair in Christie and to a lesser extent Maddison, plus a goal scorer in Rooney. very strong right back in Logan, dominating central defender in McKenna. And we had the best keeper in the league in Lewis. Not sure we even have 3 players that would clearly start for hearts hibs Dundee utd etc. very interesting summer ahead. lastly, haven’t seen a single thing that suggests goodwin is an upgrade on glass. Same players and same shit. Certainly hope he gets the summer right.

Someone must have told Ferguson there was a scout in the crowd watching him or something. I lost count of the amount of times in the first half he dropped deep to take the ball from Bates and launched a Hollywood pass to no man’s land as if he thought he was the bastard love child of Lothar Mattheus and Tom Brady. If he is going to act the cunt, he could at least have the decency to be good while doing it so we can get a decent transfer fee.

Jesus "H"

Are we writing off McKenzie after 5 mins of first team fitba?

Is Cormack in charge of DT now as well? Site being down in the aftermath of a massively significant game kinda defeats the purpose of a forum, no? Anyway, a couple of weeks ago I laughed when I read people thinking we could go down but I’m not laughing now. It’s absolute amateur hour at the club and very, very reminiscent of that time Hibs went down under Butcher. Airing dirty laundry in public and potentially alienating half the squad by talking about summer clear outs in fan gatherings when we’ve still got (at that point) six games to play is naive at best and incompetent at worst. Goodwin’s getting nothing out this team that Glass wasn’t, and alarm bells are seriously ringing, and if I was him I’d be concentrating on making sure I’m not getting cleared out myself.

Shutting down the site was definitely the best reaction to Saturday. Absolutely terrible performance. Relegation material. Impossible to pick the worst performer there, with Barron and maybe Gallagher and Besuijen getting pass marks. Bates nonchalantly strolling forward before losing it, Ramirez finding whatever he could on the pitch to hide behind and Ferguson being the anti-captain screaming at everyone else while being fucking awful himself. When that spine is surrounded with players like Ojo, McLennan, McKenzie and honking performances by McRorie, Watkins and Hayes you've got no hope. I think I'd pick Ramirez for the charlatan award and it's ridiculous that it's impossible to sub him, he was a disgrace. Ferguson a close second, because he's a nippy cunt (like Jack was in that regard) who's screaming at players does the opposite of motivate them. How the fuck guys with that attitude don't have it drummed out of them every single day at training I don't know. McLennan came off the bench and immediately Ferguson telegraphed a pass to him which the defender intercepted easily and Ferguson started shouting at McLennan who was then jittery for the rest of the game. A player low in confidence in a team low in confidence, it's a fairly obvious response. Special mention to McRorie too, who has played out my worst fears about him since his new contract. He's a more athletic version of Willow Flood. Chasing stuff down and can only kick it the way he's facing. I'd have hooked Ojo and put him into right back. Anyway, it was a reasonably predictable day after a week of statements and firing players. An absolute shambles at the club. That unprofessionalism comes from the top and Cormack needs to get a hold of it/himself quickly. Nobody could convince me that Considine isn't head and shoulders above Bates at left centre half. We're definitely getting rid of the wrong guy. Goodwin needs a fast turnaround to avoid relegation. Having told half the squad that they're shite, he's going to struggle.

Aye Saturday was rubbish,but when youre using a squad much of whom are on their way out/dont want to be here or are barely mediocre anyway.... Goodwin saying we are in for some "very,very good players " this coming window.Nae sure what standards he's judging them by,but he needs to be allowed the time to do his thing,make an arse of it or whatever

Really poor on Saturday. First half was one of the poorest I have seen this season. Didn’t create a single real chance and very little quality anywhere on the field. Bit better in second half and actually created a couple of chances in the box for Ferguson and Ramirez but simply not enough for a game we had to win. Never a penalty for County and definitely a case of ref making up for missing Barron’s foul on Cook about 5 minutes earlier. Special mention to Goodwin for his substitution taking Watkins and McCrorie off and bringing on McLennan and McKenzie which actually made us worse. Baffling substitution that was never going to work. My doubts about Goodwin are growing.

Sorry for the down time over the weekend. Timed itself well with the clusterfuck served to us on Saturday. Anyway, thanks for your patience.

You do realise it wasn't actually shut down because of the defeat?