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Into its second season and VAR still an absolute abomination. Last night was a disgrace, with all goals ruined by shitey checks (of nothing). Miovski's especially, even the player looked like he'd stopped caring when the decision was finally made. However, maybe it's time to separate the handball rule from the VAR issues. We know that the rule was changed explicitly for VAR's implementation, so it's still to blame. The rule itself is a disgrace though, and we can use McKenzie's apparent handball last night as evidence (among many others). That pathetic decision is the equivalent of having a player dive to win a penalty against you. McKenzie has no idea that Rubezic is missing his header and no chance to get his arm out the way (he wasn't even looking at the ball). Upon hitting (glancing) his arm, there is zero advantage to him, and zero disadvantage to the opponent. There are numerous examples where this is the case, and now anytime the ball is in the box, dickheads are screaming "handball", hoping to win this shite lottery. Instead of taking in a rule that prevents cheating, this rule endorses it. By cheating, I mean unsporting behaviour. It's just a shite way to win or draw any game. It's knowing you've won by diving or getting a goal when you're ten yards offside (no longer a thing). What strikes me as strange is that nobody is talking about it. Everyone talks about it in the past tense "well you just can't have your hand out in the modern game". As if we, the people who watch, play, pundit the sport are completely incapable of influencing those that make the rules. They should be raging about it and asking for a return to the previous rule. This one has very obviously failed, by introducing an unsporting result to the game. The previous rule, where the referee decided on intention, was significantly better and less prone to unsporting decision. Just take it back. It's bizarre that the supposed experts in our game aren't kicking up a real fuss about this. It's anti-sport bollocks. It'd be interesting to see what VAR would be like if it wasn't tainted by the shite handball rule change that accompanied it (still shite on last night's viewing!).

What sort of thread title is this? Who are St Mirren away to? Mods? Delete thread and start again.

Apologies for the rotten title but it’s was a rush job to get a thread going as Manc is an idle cunt and Big Al is slumped in the corner of some Greek Taverna looking like a sunburnt Father Jack.

The biggest problem with Sokler is that it's difficult to tell the difference between him and Miovski. The club have either got to stop playing them together or force one of them into a drastic haircut. Miovski was here first, so it really should be Sokler that takes the punishment.

Updated to St Mirren vs Mods

It really is uncanny

Could check to see if Hayes got any leftover peroxide

First half we were a defensive disaster mainly due to playing Morris and Duncan as wing backs. We basically had no cover in the wing back areas which they identified playing numerous high diagonals into, in particular, the right wing back area, dragging our centre halves wide to cover and putting us under pressure. When we moved Devlin in there in the second half and brought on Angus McDonald the problem was sorted. Second half Miovski and Devlin were both outstanding, Shinnie covered every blade of grass and the McG's were both excellent when they came on. I also liked the look of Sokler. Overall there was plenty to be positive about but we cannot start games with that line up very often and expect a result, particularly in Europe.

Fans were superb tonight from what I could tell. Was Miovski getting pelters from the home support, because he (and Devlin) both made a point of gesturing to the fans behind that goal when we equalised.

Miovski's control for this goal is a thing of beauty.

What an ending to that one. Caught the second half and have to say that the subs changed the game tonight. Great to see McGarry doing McGarry things, was positive going forward and I was impressed with McGrath. Great energy, they were lucky to have 10 players left imo, but we should have nothing to fear next week. start that team that finished the game and we should be ok. Devlin goal: https://x.com/pselbs/status/1694782496846618923?s=46&t=eC-2zu-nW-L1yu1oNLyRlg