Bukta Bertie Posted March 9 Report Share Posted March 9 Surely today he either walks or his sacking is announced. If not we are a total laughing stock. Quote Link to comment https://dev.donstalk.co.uk/topic/2011-peter-leven/page/3/#findComment-280561
RicoS321 Posted March 9 Report Share Posted March 9 28 minutes ago, Bukta Bertie said: Surely today he either walks or his sacking is announced. If not we are a total laughing stock. I genuinely find this bizarre. As I said in the other thread, you can't ask a guy to do you a favour for a few weeks and then fire him for failing at it. He should at the very least be offered his old job back, and is probably due a public apology from the club for having monumentally fucked up the appointment of a new manager and hung him out to dry by having him in a post he's not suitable for and has no experience in for months on end. 4 Quote Link to comment https://dev.donstalk.co.uk/topic/2011-peter-leven/page/3/#findComment-280566
Bukta Bertie Posted March 9 Report Share Posted March 9 4 minutes ago, RicoS321 said: I genuinely find this bizarre. As I said in the other thread, you can't ask a guy to do you a favour for a few weeks and then fire him for failing at it. He should at the very least be offered his old job back, and is probably due a public apology from the club for having monumentally fucked up the appointment of a new manager and hung him out to dry by having him in a post he's not suitable for and has no experience in for months on end. I find your viewpoint bizarre. Fair enough we all have different views on what is an honourable and right thing to do. 2 Quote Link to comment https://dev.donstalk.co.uk/topic/2011-peter-leven/page/3/#findComment-280568
manc_don Posted March 9 Report Share Posted March 9 I do hope we read news of him being relieved of his position today. Didn’t think he was up to the job and boy have I been proved right. I wanted to be wrong ffs. 1 Quote Link to comment https://dev.donstalk.co.uk/topic/2011-peter-leven/page/3/#findComment-280571
RicoS321 Posted March 9 Report Share Posted March 9 2 minutes ago, Bukta Bertie said: I find your viewpoint bizarre. Fair enough we all have different views on what is an honourable and right thing to do. It's not just dishonourable, I suspect it's not even legal! He surely must have had something written up to say that he'd be entitled to get his previous role back after agreeing to the poisoned chalice of caretaker with this squad? 1 Quote Link to comment https://dev.donstalk.co.uk/topic/2011-peter-leven/page/3/#findComment-280572
Bukta Bertie Posted March 9 Report Share Posted March 9 10 minutes ago, RicoS321 said: It's not just dishonourable, I suspect it's not even legal! He surely must have had something written up to say that he'd be entitled to get his previous role back after agreeing to the poisoned chalice of caretaker with this squad? Bloody hope not. He's what you call a constant and he needs to be fired out of a cannon back down to the central belt. 1 Quote Link to comment https://dev.donstalk.co.uk/topic/2011-peter-leven/page/3/#findComment-280574
RicoS321 Posted March 9 Report Share Posted March 9 4 minutes ago, Bukta Bertie said: Bloody hope not. He's what you call a constant and he needs to be fired out of a cannon back down to the central belt. You or I have absolutely no idea what he does when an actual manager is in place. The new manager should be making that call, and until that point should act with decency and integrity like any other employer would. By all means remove him from caretaker, of course. 1 Quote Link to comment https://dev.donstalk.co.uk/topic/2011-peter-leven/page/3/#findComment-280577
Bukta Bertie Posted March 9 Report Share Posted March 9 Och well. It would appear the only activity down Pittodrie way is inactivity. Superb leadership. Quote Link to comment https://dev.donstalk.co.uk/topic/2011-peter-leven/page/3/#findComment-280596
OrlandoDon Posted March 9 Report Share Posted March 9 Didn’t hear leven anywhere take any responsibility for the cup loss. All blame on the players? looking a bit more at Leven, I suppose it’s optics. Cormack has also referenced sacking x managers in such a short period of time, does he really want to fire the interim. I do believe managers will be wary of trigger happy cormack, despite the manager firings being justifiable. you can always tweak things internally, tell leven to take more input from doc for example, but it’s 9 games. We have an 8 point lead on killie, would take a lot for them to catch us. As much as we need to win games, so do they. pre split we have falkirk and hibs at home, st mirren and rangers away. Killie have hearts, livi and Dundee at home, hibs away. Impossible to predict any of this, we are gash but killie aren’t exactly on form, won 2 draw 2 lost 6 in their last 10, including pumping us. Quote Link to comment https://dev.donstalk.co.uk/topic/2011-peter-leven/page/3/#findComment-280626
wee toon red Posted March 10 Report Share Posted March 10 10 hours ago, OrlandoDon said: pre split we have falkirk and hibs at home, st mirren and rangers away. Killie have hearts, livi and Dundee at home, hibs away. Impossible to predict any of this, we are gash but killie aren’t exactly on form, won 2 draw 2 lost 6 in their last 10, including pumping us. If their form and ours continue - notwithstanding the fact that bottom six games will be totally different in terms of pressure etc - then that will get far too tight for anyone's liking. Quote Link to comment https://dev.donstalk.co.uk/topic/2011-peter-leven/page/3/#findComment-280635
Bukta Bertie Posted March 10 Report Share Posted March 10 (edited) I've weighed it all up and despite there being a possibility of us going down it's still not very likely. I'd be totally relaxed about going into the remaining games with the Doc at the helm. Although it's starting to look very much as if Leven has survived. Bad Cormack. Edited March 10 by Bukta Bertie Quote Link to comment https://dev.donstalk.co.uk/topic/2011-peter-leven/page/3/#findComment-280636
Slim Posted March 10 Report Share Posted March 10 I don't think more disruption is what is needed right now, we tried the interim interim boss thing with Warnock and it was a shit show. Chasing the "new manager bounce" dragon rarely ends well. Next person to be sitting in the manager's office should be our next permanent manager. 2 Quote Link to comment https://dev.donstalk.co.uk/topic/2011-peter-leven/page/3/#findComment-280642
Bukta Bertie Posted March 11 Report Share Posted March 11 It's going to be interesting to see if the Harry Hotspurs do today what we should have done after the Dunfermline humiliation. Sack the interim. Quote Link to comment https://dev.donstalk.co.uk/topic/2011-peter-leven/page/3/#findComment-280704
The.Moog Posted March 11 Report Share Posted March 11 Imagine the scenes when St Mirren take him in place of Robinson, he goes on an unbeaten run & leapfrogs us along with Killie over the remaining games. Marvellous… Quote Link to comment https://dev.donstalk.co.uk/topic/2011-peter-leven/page/3/#findComment-280761
RicoS321 Posted March 11 Report Share Posted March 11 You do wonder if Leven has made it clear that he's unhappy at the length of time he's had to be caretaker and asked to be removed from the role. He had a fairly serious health scare last time he was in the role and I wonder if he's thinking that the club are taking the piss asking him to be in it for so long again. Quote Link to comment https://dev.donstalk.co.uk/topic/2011-peter-leven/page/3/#findComment-280762
The.Moog Posted March 11 Report Share Posted March 11 I think he realised after Saturday that he can’t do anything with that bunch of gutless, couldn’t give a fuck shitebags & in the best Duncan Bannatyne stylee at their meeting this week he has told Dave “I’m out”. Cue panic stations and knee jerk Stephen Robinson appointment… Quote Link to comment https://dev.donstalk.co.uk/topic/2011-peter-leven/page/3/#findComment-280767
Radiored Posted March 11 Report Share Posted March 11 8 hours ago, The.Moog said: I think he realised after Saturday that he can’t do anything with that bunch of gutless, couldn’t give a fuck shitebags & in the best Duncan Bannatyne stylee at their meeting this week he has told Dave “I’m out”. Cue panic stations and knee jerk Stephen Robinson appointment… Hmm ... o' aa the speculative guesses so far, this one actually maks perfect sense Quote Link to comment https://dev.donstalk.co.uk/topic/2011-peter-leven/page/3/#findComment-280860
Panda Posted March 12 Report Share Posted March 12 If Leven & Docherty have left, be interesting to see if that was a Robinson decision, a board decision, or if they left of their own accord (Docherty was only in a temporary role anyway, so I'm thinking more about Leven). Quote Link to comment https://dev.donstalk.co.uk/topic/2011-peter-leven/page/3/#findComment-280975
Kowalski Posted March 14 Report Share Posted March 14 I could be wrong but I didn’t see Leven helping out with the pre match drills just now. Quote Link to comment https://dev.donstalk.co.uk/topic/2011-peter-leven/page/3/#findComment-281092
TheDonbytheDee Posted March 14 Report Share Posted March 14 8 hours ago, Kowalski said: I could be wrong but I didn’t see Leven helping out with the pre match drills just now. Didn't see him or the Doc. Not sure on the other coach we took in. If they have left, it's poor on the club not to have announced their departure. Quote Link to comment https://dev.donstalk.co.uk/topic/2011-peter-leven/page/3/#findComment-281147
Donofanewera Posted March 14 Report Share Posted March 14 Can only hope he’s gone, simply not good enough Quote Link to comment https://dev.donstalk.co.uk/topic/2011-peter-leven/page/3/#findComment-281148
Slim Posted March 15 Report Share Posted March 15 9 hours ago, TheDonbytheDee said: Didn't see him or the Doc. Not sure on the other coach we took in. If they have left, it's poor on the club not to have announced their departure. Ian Birchnall was on the bench. Quote Link to comment https://dev.donstalk.co.uk/topic/2011-peter-leven/page/3/#findComment-281159
wee toon red Posted March 15 Report Share Posted March 15 Doc confirmed on Premier Sports that he was away and that his contract was always going to end as soon as a permanent manager was appointed. Understandably, he wasn’t asked and didn’t speak about Leven or anyone else. Quote Link to comment https://dev.donstalk.co.uk/topic/2011-peter-leven/page/3/#findComment-281180
wee toon red Posted March 15 Report Share Posted March 15 5 hours ago, wee toon red said: Doc confirmed on Premier Sports that he was away and that his contract was always going to end as soon as a permanent manager was appointed. Understandably, he wasn’t asked and didn’t speak about Leven or anyone else. Confirmed in a very cursory statement from the club. Nothing official about Leven or Birchnall yet. Quote Link to comment https://dev.donstalk.co.uk/topic/2011-peter-leven/page/3/#findComment-281188
manc_don Posted March 16 Report Share Posted March 16 I mean surely Birchnall is staying no? Thought he had links to lutz or was it just that he might help the assumed Norwegian manager at the time? Our club seems to be making a cock up of everything at the moment. Can’t buy good PR. Quote Link to comment https://dev.donstalk.co.uk/topic/2011-peter-leven/page/3/#findComment-281198
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