DT Politics Thread

[TheDonbytheDee]

5 minutes ago, Kowalski said:

Just a bunch of bigots in England and Wales these days…

Too simple min.

They want change and outwith Tory, Labour and the Lib Dems, they only really have Reform.

Depends on your point of view, but at least we have a  less shit alternative up here in the SNP.

[TheDonbytheDee]

Dumbarton still want a Labour MSP Mason.

She must be doing something right.

[Mason89]

Jackie Baillie getting back in feels like Aberdeen giving Mcinnes a contract extension to me 

mind boggling stupidity 

[Mason89]

5 minutes ago, TheDonbytheDee said:

Dumbarton still want a Labour MSP Mason.

She must be doing something right.

It’s not us. Huns, the purple rinse brigade and English in Helensburgh always put her in. I thought the turbo huns might’ve taken enough off her 

Extremely depressing

[TheDonbytheDee]

9 minutes ago, Mason89 said:

It’s not us. Huns, the purple rinse brigade and English in Helensburgh always put her in. I thought the turbo huns might’ve taken enough off her 

Extremely depressing

You a lot of English down beside you.

We have the same issue in 'Aberdeenshire'.

Full of them and they claim we have a problem with African immigrants.

 

[InversneckieDob]

42 minutes ago, Jupiter said:

What did you expect? The Labour party has abandoned its traditional working class supporters and is now the party of self loathing middle class guardian readers.

 

And by the way , I didn't vote for anybody.

Thanks gor clarifying.

I was on tenterhooks. 

[TheDonbytheDee]

The boy Glenn Campbell on the BBC, really doesn't like the SNP

[Mason89]

18 minutes ago, TheDonbytheDee said:

You a lot of English down beside you.

We have the same issue in 'Aberdeenshire'.

Full of them and they claim we have a problem with African immigrants.

 

A lot of them are former navy. Faslane is a huge employer in the area and they’ll always go unionist, as will all the folk already mentioned. 
 

She spends a lot of time in the area and they spunked a fortune on her campaign 

Dumbarton punters are sick of the sight of her for the most part 

[Ajja]

My seat, Edinburgh Southern is as solid a Labour seat as you’ll find in Scotland. When Scottish Labour went down to 1 MP in Westminster it was here. We’ve delivered again. 
 

Great to see Reform get zero constituency seats. Hopefully once those Inverness folk wake up we’ll get a result in the regionals there and fingers crossed Labour get enough to keep reform in third. Greens did brilliantly. 
 

End result when it all shakes out looks pretty much the same as 2021 with pro-Indie team getting approx the same seats but more in Greens favour and the right getting the same but split between Reform and Tories. 

[manc_don]

9 hours ago, TheDonbytheDee said:

Too simple min.

They want change and outwith Tory, Labour and the Lib Dems, they only really have Reform.

Depends on your point of view, but at least we have a  less shit alternative up here in the SNP.

As an outsider, I’d question that. If they actually wanted change, and one that wasn’t bigoted or self serving, surely you vote green? The media always does a good job on portraying them as incompetent, but all the other parties have either been in power and failed, or in reforms case, are crooks?

[TheDonbytheDee]

2 hours ago, manc_don said:

As an outsider, I’d question that. If they actually wanted change, and one that wasn’t bigoted or self serving, surely you vote green? The media always does a good job on portraying them as incompetent, but all the other parties have either been in power and failed, or in reforms case, are crooks?

Deform bang their drum loudest and say the things many want to hear and that, simply put, is politics.

They also have a lot of money behind them from pretty insidious people and organisations, which in turn is winning/buying them votes through the use of Social Media.

'Stop the Boats' is  what 'Education, Education, Education' was to Labour in 97 and 'Get Brexit Done' in 2019 for the Tories.

Stop the Boats is a thing up here, but a decimated oil industry, gave Reform another platform to prosper.

Reform have done a great job of winning votes without giving anything away on what policies they would actually implement, bar 'stopping the boats and the woke'.

What the fuck that actually means is anyones guess, but it is playing to the gallery and winning votes on an impressive scale.

14 years of Tory led Austerity have decimated the UK and Labour have come in with a landslide majority, but no actual plan, bar not being Tories, which isn't enough.

Lurching from one self inflicted shitshow to another, doesn't help their cause either.

I still think that  Starmer is a huge vote loser and Labours fortunes would improve overnight once Starmer is gone.

 

 

 

 

[Kowalski]

8 minutes ago, TheDonbytheDee said:

Reform have done a great job of winning votes without giving anything away on what policies they would actually implement, bar 'stopping the boats and the woke'.

Turkeys voting for Xmas. Stopping the boats got much more difficult because of Brexit which was led primarily by Farage. Farage doesn’t want to be PM, he won’t want the responsibility. Voting for Reform is largely a protest vote.

[Mason89]

I’m trying to put a positive spin on it. There is no way all those voted in yesterday will actually want to do the work & theres no way the company could’ve properly vetted all those standing. 
 

All those racist Facebook mums and former Combat 18 members will not want to fix potholes. Hanging out of Trumps arse might be a poor look in the not too distant future as well. 

Edited May 9 by Mason89

[Ajja]

Totally agree. It’s going to be really interesting to see how this rabble actually govern. Hopefully it shines a light on what a useless crowd of power hungry morons they have assembled before the next GE. The people of North England have been let down so badly by Thatchers Tories destroying manufacturing and sense of community and then by Cameron/Osborne and their austerity. Blair did little to mend the wounds and these people are so disenfranchised they would vote for Mr Blobby if he said the right things. They need someone to blame for how shit their lot is and Nigel has that story book. 

[Ajja]

The tied result for second is going to be interesting for FMQs. I wonder what the odds are on the speed at which one of the crooks or grifters in Reform get ousted and they lose that second spot. 
 

My favourite is Angela Ross, the first on the list here in Lothians. Runs a company who deliver corporate advice on DEI including to big public sector bodies while representing a party who have said they will scrap all DEI training for public sector

When asked, Reform said that ‘having seen these initiatives from the inside, she is well placed to understand their shortcomings’. Cracking business model

[TheDonbytheDee]

Gordon Brown and Harriet Harman appointed special advisors, by Starmer.

The quiff is on borrowed time.

[DonUnder]

Our very own Reform have just got in in a by-election

Labo(u)r didn't stand so split the Tory vote

Dumb in-bred chunts

[Mason89]

3 minutes ago, TheDonbytheDee said:

Gordon Brown and Harriet Harman appointed special advisors, by Starmer.

The quiff is on borrowed time.

I blame Gordon Brown entirely for the mess of the UK 

It was always shit but it wasn’t acceptable to be racist until Brown let this arsehole off the hook. He should’ve went in two footed on the old boot. 

[Mason89]

A wee footnote on the Dumbarton result. There was an independent standing called Andrew Muir who was kicked out the Family Party for being too crackers 

His no.1 policy was clearing Michael Jackson’s name. 
 

355 votes (three hundred and fifty five) 

[TheDonbytheDee]

2 hours ago, Ajja said:

The tied result for second is going to be interesting for FMQs. I wonder what the odds are on the speed at which one of the crooks or grifters in Reform get ousted and they lose that second spot. 
 

My favourite is Angela Ross, the first on the list here in Lothians. Runs a company who deliver corporate advice on DEI including to big public sector bodies while representing a party who have said they will scrap all DEI training for public sector

When asked, Reform said that ‘having seen these initiatives from the inside, she is well placed to understand their shortcomings’. Cracking business model

If you read Private Eye, they give a fortnightly round up of the shit Reform councillors get up too in England and how many have stepped down.

Some PE readers think they are being unfairly victimised!

I know there are gluepots in all parties, but it's the norm for Reform.

 

[TheDonbytheDee]

10 minutes ago, Mason89 said:

A wee footnote on the Dumbarton result. There was an independent standing called Andrew Muir who was kicked out the Family Party 

His no.1 policy was clearing Michael Jackson’s name. 
 

That's Bad!

[Ajja]

3 Reform councillors departed already.

Some Green ‘paper candidates’ also looking ropey as they hadn’t expected to be elected when they agreed to be a name on the ballot in London. One a teacher who isn’t allowed to be a councillor

[Kowalski]

Ed Miliband FFS. Is that the best Labour can come up with. 

[Jupiter]

Have they forgotten that Milipede has already lost a general election

[RicoS321]

1 hour ago, Kowalski said:

Ed Miliband FFS. Is that the best Labour can come up with. 

Isn't that roughly what the electorate (and labour membership) voted for, but they got Starmer, operated by Mandelson and Macsweeney? I'd have thought he'd be the most suitable candidate.