manc_don Posted July 17, 2015 Report Share Posted July 17, 2015 Very early days yet, but I have to say, I thought the defence looked a lot more comfortable last night (after the first 10 minutes of madness). Are we better without Reynolds in the team? I thought the back pairing of Considine / Taylor worked very well and competently. Obviously complimented by having to full backs who bombed forward whenever they could and a beast in Quinn in front of them but still. Just thought I'd put it out there...thoughts? Quote Link to comment https://dev.donstalk.co.uk/topic/7261-defence/
Tyrant Posted July 17, 2015 Report Share Posted July 17, 2015 Don't underestimate the positive effect a keeper that actually shouts and comes for crosses will have. Quote Link to comment https://dev.donstalk.co.uk/topic/7261-defence/#findComment-167438
hilton Posted July 17, 2015 Report Share Posted July 17, 2015 Aye the keeper can make all the difference, but Considine has been immense for few seasons now and Taylor has proved over a whole season that he is big asset, he is going to make the odd blunder and if he didn't he would not be playing for us. Quinn also looks like judging by last night, that over the whole season he will get pass marks. add in Logan and Shinnie and its a defence to be well happy with. Reynolds has not hit the form he did year so ago. It might not be as big loss as we would have thought. but hope he is back soon but we will be fine. Quote Link to comment https://dev.donstalk.co.uk/topic/7261-defence/#findComment-167439
Nellie The Don Posted July 17, 2015 Report Share Posted July 17, 2015 Aye the keeper can make all the difference, but Considine has been immense for few seasons now and Taylor has proved over a whole season that he is big asset, he is going to make the odd blunder and if he didn't he would not be playing for us. Quinn also looks like judging by last night, that over the whole season he will get pass marks. add in Logan and Shinnie and its a defence to be well happy with. Reynolds has not hit the form he did year so ago. It might not be as big loss as we would have thought. but hope he is back soon but we will be fine. With any luck, if Reynolds finds it hard to force his way back in the team then that might be the fire lit under him that he needs to return to his previous form. Quote Link to comment https://dev.donstalk.co.uk/topic/7261-defence/#findComment-167440
Reidzer 1314 Posted July 20, 2015 Report Share Posted July 20, 2015 Not sure if it was the fact Reynolds wasn't in the back line or just the fact that McInnes may finally got the players used to playing the 3 at the back that he has tried previously. After the first 10 Minutes or so against Rijeka we seemed to get a grip at the back and were than fairly solid throughout. Danny Ward I think has helped, comes for a ball and is very vocal. Quote Link to comment https://dev.donstalk.co.uk/topic/7261-defence/#findComment-167462
thestooge Posted July 20, 2015 Report Share Posted July 20, 2015 In Shinnie and Logan, I think we've got the two best fullbacks in the league. Ward is certainly looking like an upgrade thus far too. Reynolds, Considine, Taylor and Ward give us genuine strength in depth. I guess Quinn provides cover for Logan too at RB, though if Logan does move on, we'll need to strengthen there. All in though, looking good at the back. Would still like to augment the attacking options. A striker and an attacking midfielder. Can Shinnie nae get his brother up the road? Quote Link to comment https://dev.donstalk.co.uk/topic/7261-defence/#findComment-167468
manc_don Posted July 24, 2015 Author Report Share Posted July 24, 2015 Wasn't able to watch the match last night and I know we conceded two (albeit one was a freak of a deflection) last night. How did the defence compare to the week before? I'll accept your comment about having a keeper who commands his box, something I noticed in the first leg too was how much he spoke to his back line. Joy to see! Quote Link to comment https://dev.donstalk.co.uk/topic/7261-defence/#findComment-167535
tom_widdows Posted July 24, 2015 Report Share Posted July 24, 2015 I only got to see part of the second half (fortunately it was the part with all the goals) but I was really concerned about the team seemingly sitting back and inviting Rijeka to attack. Its asking for trouble and I hope this is not a sign of things to come. Quote Link to comment https://dev.donstalk.co.uk/topic/7261-defence/#findComment-167538
Tyrant Posted July 24, 2015 Report Share Posted July 24, 2015 I only got to see part of the second half (fortunately it was the part with all the goals) but I was really concerned about the team seemingly sitting back and inviting Rijeka to attack. Its asking for trouble and I hope this is not a sign of things to come. Exactly. We invited them on far too much and got punished. Their first goal was classy but happened because we were happy to watch them attack us. Their second goal was a fluke but it's still a case of if you don't buy a ticket you won't win the raffle. He should have been closed down quicker. Quote Link to comment https://dev.donstalk.co.uk/topic/7261-defence/#findComment-167542
hilton Posted July 24, 2015 Report Share Posted July 24, 2015 the first half our work rate was immense and it was hard keep that up, they were aye going have a spell and as much as we seemed sit back they pushed us back for 15 mins, if that was against Dundee etc I be pissed aff , but at the end the day Rijeka are nae mugs . but over the two games our defence was far superior Quote Link to comment https://dev.donstalk.co.uk/topic/7261-defence/#findComment-167543
manc_don Posted July 25, 2015 Author Report Share Posted July 25, 2015 Watched the game back last night and I don't think we'll be able to play like that domestically. As you guys have said, we invited way too much pressure onto ourselves, particularly in the second half. Something seemed to change, maybe they got nervous I'm not sure but it seemed a bit chaotic to start with. Still, a very good performance and the guys seem to know where each other are, plenty of passing out from the back rather than hoofing it. Quite a few of the hoof balls even found goodwillie. Can't say Ward had much to do apart from pick the ball out of the net twice. Quote Link to comment https://dev.donstalk.co.uk/topic/7261-defence/#findComment-167548
manc_don Posted July 31, 2015 Author Report Share Posted July 31, 2015 I could pretty much copy and paste this from the previous post. First 1/2 and first 20 mins in particular we were way too deep and let them score two goals. Lucky to not be further behind but seemed relatively composed with our distribution and passed out the back a few times. Quote Link to comment https://dev.donstalk.co.uk/topic/7261-defence/#findComment-167699
manc_don Posted November 2, 2015 Author Report Share Posted November 2, 2015 Seems like a relevant time to bump this thread. What a difference a few months make. The only things which still apply to what I mentioned at the start of the season is Ward. Our centre half pairing (which ever one it seems to be) has been so inconsistent since the slump started. I think ED touched on the preferred defence Logan - Quinn - Reynolds - Shinnie It's certainly a line-up i'd be happy with and like to see stuck with for a few weeks to allow them all to form a partnership. This chop and change isn't doing anyone any good. Least of all the fans! Regardless of whether Logan leaves in Jan or not, we need someone to cover that position. McLaughlin is useless. Quote Link to comment https://dev.donstalk.co.uk/topic/7261-defence/#findComment-169918
WeegieRed Posted November 3, 2015 Report Share Posted November 3, 2015 I don't rate Quinn or Taylor. Between the pair of them I'd pick Taylor though. In an ideal world Reynolds-Considine would work as partnership. If we can get a tough tackling midfielder then Shinnie can play permanently at LB. Until then he's better off in midfield and defence should be Logan-Taylor-Reynolds-Considine. Not seen McLaughlin kick a ball for Aberdeen so no idea if he's useless or not. Quote Link to comment https://dev.donstalk.co.uk/topic/7261-defence/#findComment-169922
Tyrant Posted November 3, 2015 Report Share Posted November 3, 2015 I don't rate Quinn or Taylor. Between the pair of them I'd pick Taylor though. In an ideal world Reynolds-Considine would work as partnership. If we can get a tough tackling midfielder then Shinnie can play permanently at LB. Until then he's better off in midfield and defence should be Logan-Taylor-Reynolds-Considine. Not seen McLaughlin kick a ball for Aberdeen so no idea if he's useless or not. Yes. Quote Link to comment https://dev.donstalk.co.uk/topic/7261-defence/#findComment-169934
Jute Posted November 3, 2015 Report Share Posted November 3, 2015 I don't rate Quinn or Taylor. Between the pair of them I'd pick Taylor though. In an ideal world Reynolds-Considine would work as partnership. If we can get a tough tackling midfielder then Shinnie can play permanently at LB. Until then he's better off in midfield and defence should be Logan-Taylor-Reynolds-Considine. Not seen McLaughlin kick a ball for Aberdeen so no idea if he's useless or not. From his showing at Hibs (I know only one game) then he is not even as good as useless. Looked totally out of his depth. Quote Link to comment https://dev.donstalk.co.uk/topic/7261-defence/#findComment-169940
ayrshire_don74 Posted November 3, 2015 Report Share Posted November 3, 2015 Yet he continues to get on bench and play in games, are we seriously saying there is not one u21/youth capable of doing a shift at RB ? Quote Link to comment https://dev.donstalk.co.uk/topic/7261-defence/#findComment-169942
Reidzer 1314 Posted November 3, 2015 Report Share Posted November 3, 2015 For be the best pairing is still Reynolds and Taylor. Taylor can have that bomb scare moment but to be honest so does Reynolds, Quinn and Considine. The blame for our recent performances does not solely lie at Taylors feet. Quote Link to comment https://dev.donstalk.co.uk/topic/7261-defence/#findComment-169950
Tyrant Posted November 3, 2015 Report Share Posted November 3, 2015 For be the best pairing is still Reynolds and Taylor. Taylor can have that bomb scare moment but to be honest so does Reynolds, Quinn and Considine. The blame for our recent performances does not solely lie at Taylors feet. Correct. His missus' knockers have to take some of the blame. Quote Link to comment https://dev.donstalk.co.uk/topic/7261-defence/#findComment-169952
Reidzer 1314 Posted November 4, 2015 Report Share Posted November 4, 2015 Correct. His missus' knockers have to take some of the blame. Quote Link to comment https://dev.donstalk.co.uk/topic/7261-defence/#findComment-169966
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